After all this while and listening to guides and what enemies to kill, harvesters apoc and FNIX nothinn. This is not a plz trade, since i dont want to trade for stuff. Since it just removes excitement from playing.
So im asking HOW? Even dissabled all other weapons pack DLCs still nothin. It feels like these two weapons are a myth,
They are no myth, I have them both.
But for me it also took a long time.
There is a pool for base game guns and a seperate pool for DLC guns, so in general the base game guns shouldn’t be affected by DLCs. Keep in mind, some machines have types of both in their loot, so they obviously aren’t competing each other.
Every weapon just has a chance to be spawned.
The more weapons and classes there are, the lower the chance for each specific weapon.
Idk why or how, but some guns seem to have a veeery low chance. And on the other hand, dlc weapons of newly released dlcs often had and have a much higher chance.
Do the weekly challenges, and fight Rivals and enemies in “LOOT RICHER ZONES” ( Marshlands, Forest, North Coast) you will get those eventually, its worse with DLC weapons.
I find the moller on the ground beside the dead.
There are zones/areas on the map you can readily find the ammo for those weapons, the weapons are not far away from those areas.
The 5c version of the Möller doesn’t lie on the ground anywhere.
Potential drop from:
The same is for the 5c älgstudsare
Missed the 5C in the title for Moller. No 5C Mollers on the ground.
List where are the places you hunt most often at? And how often you visit the same places, in game time? We all have our favorites and depends on the mood and free time where they are.
the weapons are there, you just are not looking in the right places.
Himfjäll, FNIX Artillery battery, and everywhereeee
Try hunting towards the west coast more, starting in the area of ANL118 and you can head east or west there, maybe try west first and after the first battle turn more north west. It is not to common to get rivals to spawn near there but repeated visits and they will spawn. Visit only after the area has had a chance to recycle and restore all loot boxes.
just ask some multiplayer people’s to drop you moller
Didnt read my post eh- lol, yea im not into being gifted stuff in games where u grind
grinding can be stressful 
sometimes it’s just better let someone give you one, 
same goes for things like Snowballs, FireWork Boxes, Gnome Ticks, Selma
In my hours of playing public co-ops, I met a number of players that want to find everything themselves. I am one of them.
Literarly the point of playing a scavenging game lol
good luck finding FireWork Boxes on your own 
anyway
I got them both by doing the daily challenges. You have to commit to it - start on midday Monday and do it every day. By Saturday you have Tank Rewards, which always include 5* weapons. Occasionally you get missions like: “Attack twenty-eight medium bases armed only with a pork pie”, but you ignore that and make up for it with one mission on a Sunday.
A few weeks of that and I had every weapon in the game. Nowadays I still do it, but recycle them for upgrade points.
This won’t really help you much, in fact I hope you don’t hate me. But I had 2 5C Möllers. I gave one away here while back in gaming with someone. As they are hard to find I’m keeping the other one for myself. If I come across another I’ll see what I can do to get it to you. Sorry I couldn’t more help for now.