I know what you mean. Even after the story is done, I was able to generate 200 hours purely to speculate and observe the storytelling. I think I reached 40 hours when I was done with the story the first time, but I re-did and speedran events afterwards with fresh saves. It may have soiled that experience, because I was hunting confirmation and footage for videos, otherwise my own memory doesn’t sound like a good source for my claims in theory.
Still, if you haven’t… There’s a way to extend the lifetime for the game if you set yourself with arbitrary restrictions. A fresh save, story is allowed, no adrenaline shots, only your own inventory, but plundra is allowed at a chosen location. No deaths and guerilla. It was so much fun, but that well has run dry for me too. Still, I also anticipate news from the Devs. I don’t give up easily on these games and one good example I have my hopes up about is APB… The game that for 6 years promised an engine upgrade…
I just don’t understand:
Are the extreme changes to the landscape just the devs realising and completing their vision for how this game was always supposed to look (doubt)
Or are the FNIX rising additions more like a destructive retcon ruining original content in favour of new content.
It feels like we’re living in an evolving world, like some MMOs do, but if you were present before these recent evolutions then you’ve missed out and will never get to experience them.
I don’t even have the FNIX Rising DLC and yet this FNIX stuff is all over my map.
Expanding on the same points…
Marshlands are practically barren (You can stroll through them for 20 minutes unable to find a single robot and without seeing anything more interesting than a tree), and yet FNIX Rising DLC crammed stuff into South Coast overwritting some beautiful and eerie environmental storytelling with the extreme sci-fi FNIX stuff and making the region practically inaccessible to low level players due to it danger, while leaving it full with the original low-mid level quests?
Current state of the game seems like a confusing mess for new players, like it only exists for veterans. Yet surely it could have been preserved for both?
There is no way to experience the original South Coast, why would they burn something like that, that took so much work to carefully craft?
Basically, why not just give the original map to people if they don’t have FNIX Rising DLC installed / “enabled”, and when you’re actually ready to play FNIX rising stuff allow people to enable it.
Most people buying the game have no idea that you’re supposed to play the base game then progress to Alpine then come back and see the changes that FNIX made and play that story out. Current state of the game: unplayable for all but end-gamer grinders.
So how do they expect to make new sales? And yet they’re adding more end game content this month?
It’s neither of the two. Instead, view GZ as “evolving, continuous game”. (Similar to Windows 10, which isn’t a completed product, but instead is a live service.)
Every map revamp update, doesn’t bring the game closer to what devs initially visioned GZ to be, but instead are progressing the time and thus, showing changes in GZ.
Vanilla game took place day or two after d-day events (machine takeover), and game world also reflected that. All was just abandoned, there was no-one around.
Himfjäll takes place 1 month after d-day events. Since it’s on it’s own island, it’s relatively easy to differentiate from the main island.
FNIX Rising takes place 2 months after d-day events. And all the new map revamps, are also brought to the date of FNIX Rising, showing the battle torn world, 2 months after d-day events.
Since the game world revamp isn’t complete, as of yet, date in GZ is:
1-2 days after d-day - Forest, Mountains, Marshlands, North Coast
1 month after d-day - Himfjäll
2 months after d-day - Archipelago, Farmlands, South Coast
There are already several such events in the game, that older players did get to experience but anyone new joining in, will miss out.
Here are some (click here to read)
All houses/farms intact. Now only few remain intact (boarded up) and even fewer are the ones you can enter.
FOA 2 doors are now completely open. Before, they were shut tight, producing mystery about it.
Skinnarbol Crater forming. There used to be farmlands in place of it.
I can’t play with random people anymore. Everyone run around with anoying experimentals that in my opinion kills the fun in the game. They are by far the worst thing that happened to the game.
I like the reaper because it gives me a hard fight but I don’t like rivals. Because you can’t kill them if you want the reaper to spawn. And since I’m there to fight the machines it feels stupid to leave them roaming around when I could take then out easy.
The plundra was a bad thing. It was more fun when you had to make difficult choices on what to keep and what to throw. I play Without plundra but random players do so no mp with uknown people for me anymore because of that and experimentals
But I do like the damage in the world. War makes that happen and the world was to perfect at start. And that there is more corpses now. Make it feel more like a war is going on.
But when machines can destroy everything including buildings how does the upcoming base building fit into this world. Fortunately the things the devs implement nowadays are less intrusive and more in the form of story telling.
I agree. Since I got the exp Pvg I stopped playing my Guerilla char immediately. The whole game becomes too easy. I immediately did a save-wipe and started fresh with the goal to not use any exp. weapon. And the reaper is more a patch to this problem but no real fix (making the enemies harder the higher you level would see like a better way to go here, but then the 1%-ish bonuses for the clothes make even less sense… d’oh!). The endgame becomes way too easy with those weapons. (Btw. I think the reaper should have a probably to spawn when killing a rival. The higher the region level, the more likely the probability. But it should not be based on a level as a threshold.)
I haven’t looked in to base building. Not sure how I feel about it yet. As the game is now with a plundra in every safehouse I honestly don’t see a reason for a specific base. But I do like the thought of battle defending a place.
But destruction of my base is no problem. After a battle stuff gets destroyed. Just get out in the world and search for new stuff to repair and improve. But we’ll see when it’s out how it works.
Having heard nothing about this game prior to finding it on the Xbox Store a couple weeks ago, I have to say I am thoroughly enjoying my time spent playing the game as it stands right now.
I’m playing with one buddy almost exclusively, and we play on Adventure as a couple of filthy casuals who are grateful for access to those storage boxes and crafting stations.
Obviously everyone has their own ideas of what it fun, so I’m not here to say those who want the super-hardcore aspects to return are wrong. But I would never had played as much if I was limited to only 50kg and had no where to store items for later and if death had such harsh consequences.
So here’s a proposal: the difficulty tiers should change those aspects. Adventure can then be truly casual and allow for much more of the exploration game play with increased levels so players can experiment with multiple classes of builds.
Then as players choose higher difficulties, the game would take away certain aspects to increase the challenge appropriately.
On the highest tier, they could go back to only being able to carry a set weight limit and not having any outside storage, deaths carrying penalties, etc.
I think the problem is mainly the endgame difficulty. While the start is cruel and unforgiving on Guerilla it becomes too easy later on especially with the exp. weapons. Limiting the carrying capacity, no storage and death penalties don’t change much in this regard. If you acquire the exp. PVG and the exp. Kvm59 with 5* magazines nothing is hard anymore. The toughness of the machines would be needed to change.
Btw. this topic is mainly about environmental changes and story-telling in the ongoing updates.
I happen to love those revamps, and I’m sure I am not alone. In a war things get destroyed. And sure, I understand that some people would like to keep everything nice an beautiful, but that does not mean that the devs made a mistake with the revamps, just because some people happen to dislike the devastation.
I can see, that when time passes (with each new update), young trees and bushes can start to repopulate the devastated area, and make it less barren again.
But when machines can destroy everything including buildings how does the upcoming base building fit into this world. Fortunately the things the devs implement nowadays are less intrusive and more in the form of story telling.