Yeah, the in-game ballistics are a bit bonkers. On the combat rifles and .50 cal, you do indeed want to aim exactly where you want to hit. The hunting rifles, however, consistently have pretty significant bullet rise past about 50m (either that, you your character is a really bad marksman and constantly anticipating the recoil and raising the gun themselves as they pull the trigger). Handguns also seem to get a bit odd past about 20m (but that’s not all that unexpected, it’s rare IRL to find someone who can reliably hit a target with a factory handgun beyond 25m). On top of all of that, scopes apparently make you literally more accurate proportionate to the magnification, so you can improve your accuracy with the same gun and same scope just by improving the magnification (which is super-unrealistic).
Also, hitting things past a certain range doesn’t visibly register because the visual feedback is done with particle effects, and they just plain don’t render those past a certain range (ever noticed how if you damage a bot from far away then get close you only start actually seeing the sparks once you get close enough?).
@Terrorbot So that is actually grounded in reality. At very close ranges you do need to aim low to hit your target in real life. Bullets do not leave the barrel in a straight line, but in an arc which I’m sure you knew already. The in game ballistic arcs do need some tweaking though. The close range bullet behavior is more or less good enough but bullet drop at long ranges seems way off.
The bullet rise seems rather high too. I don’t know exact values for .243 or .270, but I seriously doubt that they creep up 5-10 centimeters from the point of aim like I’m regularly seeing at the typical ranges I’m using them.
Interestingly enough though, I’ve seen essentially zero bullet rise on the .50 BMG in game…
Depending on the caliber and range 10cm (roughly 3 in) is about right. M855 ball (5.56 NATO) has roughly that in my experience at around 25 yards. I don’t know what ranges you’re shooting at so I can’t truly judge. If it’s anything plus or minus I’d say 8 yards then yeah the games “ballistics” are fucked.
Typically 80-100m if I’m using the .243 or .270, and those are actually the only guns I’m seeing it on (I’ve used the AG 4 as a DMR a number of times at a similar range, and never saw any such issues with that, and I never have issues with the PVG 50). Probably feels so off to me because I’m used to using much heavier rounds IRL (I rarely ever shoot anything down at the gun range that’s smaller than 7.5mm caliber).
At those ranges, if you still have to hold low then I’d say the devs might need to take a look at the aim models on the weapons in this game cause that doesn’t seem right (a better idea would be to allow us to zero the weapons manually but I don’t know if the game could support that.) I haven’t messed around with the .243 or .270 much so I haven’t noticed problems. Guess I’ll try them and see.
The annoying part is it isn’t consistently super-high at that range, just averages out in my experience to about 5-10cm, possibly because of the somewhat poor accuracy of both guns.
BTW, if you want to test, look for at least a good gun, preferably exceptional. The lower the quality, the worse the accuracy, which makes it harder to test reliably.
Depends on bullet travel distance - evidenced by CarlG’s projectile never reaching ground when shot straight up, even though being spotted falling down. But it should be enough to hit target across the region, which way more than single viewing distance.
The devs claim their ballistics simulation is super-realistic. I know that there is no powder propelled, shoulder-fired weapon in the world that can launch a projectile as far as 7 km. For a rifle, no more than 5-6 km max, given the right angle. But even if they did, what are the chances of hitting something at that range? Even with a couple thousand rounds fired in the same direction? …as good as none, IMHO.
The grenade launcher’s arc doesn’t seem very flat either…
Do you know if every machine on the map is “there” all the time? By that I mean every machine beyond 400 meters and all across the map?
Can anyone confirm if this is even possible? A true one shot kill of a Fnix tank (meaning no explosives or otherwise involved)? Never heard of it before. Maybe on adventure difficulty?
Also regarding the discussion about distance and multiplayer, and what @Aesyle wrote about in another thread. So if the draw radius is around 400 meters around a player, and you’re in a multiplayer game where one player (player A in the screenshot) is ahead of the other and spotting an enemy (X on the screenshot), do you mean that player B can also actually see the enemy from his position?
