They didn’t somehow!
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Some good points and great ideas in this video, thanks for sharing it!
I’d like to make a small, but important, clarification: We did not “allow” Neebs to use mods. We gave them access to a special build of the game where things like NoHud and FreeCam are possible.
Yes, of course their community size played a huge role in making us trust them with this powerful build, but legally it’s not much different from us giving Youtubers early access to an unreleased update in order to create content. Such is the privilege of being a big content creator. I personally don’t know how many creators have asked for access to these tools, so I can’t speak to who was approved or denied.
In addition, I think this video paints a worse-than-reality picture of the consequences of using mods. They say that using mods “gets you banned”, leaving out the circumstances. Using mods does not get you banned from playing the game, nor does talking about mods instantly get you banned from our platforms. But it is against the EULA (which is a document written by people much more versed in legal issues than I), AND using mods can be a major risk to those who do, leading to crashes after an update due to mismatched versions, unpredictable multiplayer behavior, and sometimes even savefile corruptions. That’s why we don’t want modding to be encouraged on our channels, because most mod users are not aware of the risks.
Now whether or not GZ should have mod support is a different discussion, conceptually I agree it would be cool, but adding “mod support” is not just a switch you can flip. It includes many hours of work and figuring out the legal consequences / preparations.
Lastly, please remember to stay civil when using our forum. I know this is a discussion that can easily lead to a heated debate, so make sure to avoid name calling or making spammy posts like “in before the thread gets locked”.
As a closing word, I can say I understand your frustration. We know that a huge amount of players would love to see another island or more story added to GZ. Thanks for speaking up in a structured and civil manner 
I believe you will like what we’re working on for the next update.
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Btw is there a date for next update?
Like “october-update”?
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No, there is no date for it yet
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I watched the video and I admit, there are things I’m still looking for. But I think that’s what they (the devs) are doing = working on more. Granted there have been a lot of micro releases for weapon packs, but haven’t they been fun?! I know I’ve loved them! Especially the heavy weapons that was just released.
As for the “what it could have been” comment in the video - I don’t think that’s a fair statement. Only becuase we haven’t heard them say, “That’s it - We’re through.” On that day, if we haven’t seen all the possibilities explored yet - then sure - maybe we could say it then. But as they’re still actively working on it (maybe not at the speed we’d all like) I still think it’s awesome that more is still on the way!
To me that means they’re not done and there’s still hope!
As far as mods go - I get it. I see both sides and even Carni said that he understands to a degree …
But even he stated that we could be asking for something we just don’t understand …
Let’s face it, there are devs that have been working on this game from the beginning and look at the glitches and issues that they fixed to get where they are today! Imagine a self promoted modder getting a hold of that! Whew! That would look pretty crazy IMO.
In respect of the devs and the community I share my thoughts and feelings and I second what Zesiir stated …
I’ve found myself heated at times at what others have said as I’m defensive about this game. But I realized something. People are discussing these points because they want the same thing I do - to make the game better! We just need to respect each other’s opinions even if we don’t agree!
On that note: I’m just glad we can all agree that I’m always right and everyone else is always wrong!
(Hopefully everyone knows that’s a joke!)
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Hey so about the EULA, I think something is a bit wrong. I was a little curious to see if anything had changed since I last took a look at it a few years ago. Between section 17 and 19 there used be one called 18 Prohibited use. It’s gone, well partialy. The text “18 Prohibited use” and the paragrahp explaing the section has been removed, however the list of things it prohibits is still there.
Here is a screenshot from a video I made talking about GZ’s EULA back in 2022. I checked there first as I rememberd having taken screenshots. The section number is out of frame but “Use of your own…” is still there. Above the highligthed text in yellow is a paragrahp missing from todays EULA, talking about the things in the list below being prohibited.
Now here is a screenshot of the EULA from today. I doubled checked with the F3 button to see if it was just moved, but 0 results.
Here “Section 18 Prohibted use” and it’s associated paragraph is gone. I knew a screenshot from an old video wasn’t a good way to check how the EULA was before. So I went to the web archive. The earliest date featuring the complete version of section 18 was June 6th 2023
Here is a screenshot from the webarchive
It can be concluded that the EULA after that date was changed, for reasons unknown. Wich I believe could lead to confusion. While the majority of the list have the “May not” or “Will not”, some dont. However I’m very suprised that the section number, it’s title and paragraph just vanished so easlily. One minor thing, Section 27 Modification has changed to 7.
A little ironic given how it’s stated it wants us to check the EULA peroidcally. By no means I’m I a legal expert. However I think this is something serious and someone with legal expertise should take a look at and fix. Perhaps also changing last updated if this is how the EULA is meant to be now.
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Oh… there is something off for sure… That sure needs to be fixed, i can see how this can cause a lot of confusion.
Btw! great work! holy moly!
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Carni, I do appreciate the effort that you’ve put into the game, even if I’ve sometimes come across as harsh. I do believe in this game. I play the game straight up and have purchased every pack that’s been released. My only real beef has been that the game has far greater potential than what we’ve gotten. That said, I just don’t understand the secrecy behind your next update. The last few reports have told us nothing of any real significance. If you’re satisfied that the community will like what you’re all working on for the next update, then why not just tell us? I’m not suggesting that we be given every last known detail. But how about a clear idea on what you’re doing? Frankly, my belief is that information of that nature would do wonders for the community.
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tenebris was the best Gen zero youtuber.
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Many firms choose not to reveal their current projects or schedules. In the past, sharing excessive details prior to a launch seemed to negatively impact the community, particularly when the projected plans and timelines for the next update were not met. The postponed console updates serve as a notable instance.
Some players have voiced their frustration and have resorted to name-calling because of delays. On the other hand, the development team seems to relish creating suspense. They are diligently working on an update, which they plan to release “super soon” following the announcement of its completion.
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You clearly did not read my post.
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I’ve read your post. If you’re aware of the expected timelines announced for another game produced by the same team, you might also know how the community reacts to missed deadlines. The anticipated schedule not being met certainly didn’t please them. They may not want a repeat.
You: “In the past, sharing excessive details prior to a launch seemed to negatively impact the community, particularly when the projected plans and timelines for the next update were not met.”
Me: “I’m not suggesting that we be given every last known detail. But how about a clear idea on what you’re doing?”
What should be hot or cold on this image?
On himfjäll it’s always snowy, so there it’s cold 
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It’s normal for your perception of something to change over time. The feeling of eeriness and uncertainty disappears the more you know about the events. The problem is when it stops being interesting.
The world of GZ is very empty, and the resistance only exists in name. Not more weapons, strange bikes or cars (
). A few crazy people running around the map, exchanging fire with robots, operating machine guns in home bases or even a loud horn when the character opens a car door would be a great help.
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I like when they add new guns.
No, no more new weapons at least not so quickly, I would prefer if there was more life on the map like @TheDoorsBR wrote
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That would be good, but I still like when they add new weapons, personally.
For me new weapons are just fun for a few minutes in general.
Start the game, play 5 minutes with the immediatly existing 3c versions, scrap them, play half an hour to get a 5c version of each, lose interest because everything else is still the same.
For me the way new item-dlcs are added to the game just is bad.
I often thought about starting whole new game and even did it once… But after an hour I was bored. I had so many weapons and ammo, I didn’t have to hide or sneak or use traps, it was just too easy. And that’s Not just because I’m experiences.
That’s not the game any more which I loved when I started to play.
I’m missing something really new to explore or to experience. Just getting something directly into my hands (or plundra) or grinding hours and hours for a new augmentation isn’t what I’m looking for.
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