Guess where it is? (refering to recent tweet)

Any idea where I found this little dish? It’s at a distinct namable location.

Looks like southcoast region… Southeastern coastline.

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South coast, yes. :sunglasses: But it’s not pinpointed. That’s why I said it had a named location on the map. You saw that I took the picture right next to the cables? :coffee:

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I did, but I haven’t been in GZ for months, so I can’t remember the exact location. I need to search for it.

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where is this south coast but i cant spot it lol im an idiot lol solhojden cable node ?? area

This dish is not at the Solhojden Cable node, that’s another one.

Meant was the South Coast Region, because there is the FNIX power grid. Now somewhere on that grid sits a dish. It easiest found at night because it emits some light.

Where would the Apple Murderer park his car?

Ok, no spoilers here, I’ve done the missions that hint at the killer’s identity and explored all the creepy locations tied to it. I remember getting really deep into the lore, even analysing the layout of the bodies for possible clues. Probably seeing signs where there were none! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

One thing that stuck with me was a Resistance newspaper article, the one mentioning “dirty secrets,” trading apples for ammo or something, and referencing someone or a group connected to the last house in the north of Östervik.

So based on all that, my guess is the killers car in this picture, if this even is the killers car, is parked somewhere in the streets of northeast Östervik, near that house.

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For me the identity of the killer is certain for 99%. :point_left:

I suppose that it is not sure if the killer owns this car, I know for instance his family had a blue one, with a wheel missing. So my guess he took someone else’s car to get around. This car however, is not parked at his parental home at Pärlsjövägen 1 Östervik.

So where is it parked?

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Loving this mystery, feels like proper detective work! You have some great intel on the killer. Didn’t know it was his parent’s home!

So now I’m thinking: if he borrowed or stole a car to move around, where would he leave it that still ties into the narrative but keeps it out of sight? Could be a spot with emotional significance, or even somewhere connected to one of the murders.
Since the light is hitting the passenger side directly, that side is likely facing west, which would mean the car itself is roughly pointed north and is thankfully not in a garage! Is that a glimpse of a shadow I see at the top right? The dappled, broken pattern suggests it could very well be from bushes or nearby foliage. You can see softer, diffused shading across the dashboard and toward the top edge of the bonnet, especially just above the steering wheel. It’s not cast by the windshield frame alone, suggesting something like a shrub or low tree might be nearby, just outside the passenger side. Could the shadow even be from………AN APPLE TREE ???

I’ll be combing the street tonight! :grin:

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I wanted to show you one aspect of all the things I do when playing GZ. I have gathered bio information of all person’s names that were mentioned in the lore. The more important a NPC is the more info tidbits we can find and stitch together. Some of the bio’s are not very useful, because it leaves to much to guessing. But still it helped a lot in detective work.

My bio file is about 24 pages long. Here a small excerpt of one page.

That’s incredibly impressive, 24 pages of compiled bios is real dedication! But I wouldn’t expect anything less from you at this stage! It all helps make the world stay alive for me, even the smallest details can help piece things together. What really makes it cool is when you start noticing the little things not explicitly mentioned in the in game biographies, like Anita Sjögren driving an old red Ville 445, and whoop, there it is parked near the bus stop. It’s those kinds of environmental details that really show just how carefully crafted Generation Zero is. What makes it special.

That said, I do have to remind myself not to let my imagination run too wild? it’s easy to start guessing and building entire theories out of fragments. I’m known for doing just that and don’t want to create my own little echo chamber here!

Ok, I’m finally able to get on GZ now to hunt for the car. No clues yet please. The locations connected to the Apple Murder and the Growing Tree serial killer/group marked in my messy notebook include the Petterstorp Homestead, a shack near Avern Lake, the Vargen Bunker, an orchard and barn in the eastern Farmlands, Averholm Manor, Boo Church, and various woodland areas throughout the Farmlands and Forest Region. Got my work cut out!

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I found the car! :grinning::grinning::grinning: That was a whole lot of fun and it was actually the first spot I checked! The position of the car, based on the sunlight, was correct too! I also came across a blue Ville (marker 1) nearby on the road going west with two busted wheels that was totally wrecked, maybe by the tank in front of it? There’s a crate in the boot with two apples in it, but really, I don’t think it’s connected!

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I agree, we find lots of places with apples that are not connected. Best to look for additional clues that make it more likely be connected.

The location of this message is not that hard to find, but how do you think he was fooled?

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You’ve seriously got the best location questions! @Gysbert this one’s been a real head scratcher! But…….

I found the location! it’s that isolated shack northeast of Boo.

What I didn’t realise until now is that there are actually two notes on the bed inside. One says “I will not be fooled again”, and the other simply says “A friend.”

Here’s my theory: these notes might be rough drafts, possibly intended as different responses depending on how you complete the mission An Invitation; whether you go through with the ritual or choose to destroy it.

It feels like they’re tied to the killer’s emotional state at the end of the story. If you disrupt the ritual, maybe the killer believes you’ve betrayed their trust, hence the cold, final line: “I will not be fooled again.” On the other hand, “A friend” could be a message meant for if you went along with the ritual, suggesting a connection or moment of understanding.

But who the hell is the killer?

From what I understand so far reading on the forum and from what I remember, the faction behind these creepy apple themed murder scenes, sometimes referred to as “The Growing Tree” might not be a group at all. According to one of your older posts, it could actually be the work of a single disturbed fella called Kenneth, based on what Marja says it being a person. He’s possibly the one staging these ritualistic displays with bodies and apples in some really unsettling spots I’ve visited. But how’d you get this name??? I can’t find any evidence to link this chap to the murders! It’s probably blinding obvious but it’s eluding me.

It all ties into the “Apple Mystery” (also known as “An Invitation” ) mission I mentioned earlier that was added in the Landfall DLC. You trigger it after discovering the scenes and reading a resistance newsletter. It eventually leads you to a remote barn and then to that surreal orchard near Averholm. But even after all that, I could never actually meet or confront the killer. He just disappears (apart from a bug I had and could get up close to him!).

But… I’ve got a theory of my own.
Cue dramatic music… duh-duh-duhhhhhh… it’s Marja!

Yes, Marja, the Resistance newspaper editor, the friendly voice behind the newsletters, the one keeping everyone “informed”.

She’s in a unique position of influence within the community and is the only person we know of who receives a letter from the so called “Growing Tree” faction. As you say, she refers to them not as a group, but possibly as a single person. Her language is deliberately vague.

Throughout the newsletters, she uses the word “growth” three times and “growing” once, which feels a little on the nose. She even mentions that some people have called her manipulative. That could be nothing… or it could be a veiled confession.

She also mentions her son, Nikolai, who mysteriously falls ill. She says he recovers, but what if… he didn’t? What if his death is what pushed her over the edge?

Now, I’ve noticed other details.

If you go to Marja’s office at the Östervik Post Office, you’ll find two apples sitting on the back porch, an obvious reference to killer’s calling card. But the most telling part is the makeshift tunnel behind the post office. It leads to a hidden area where someone has constructed a mannequin-like figure made from wood and a melon, it’s even holding a gun. You can find very similar ‘objects as people’ figures at the isolated shack northeast of Boo, one of the key locations in the Apple Tree mystery.

Even stranger right next door on the left to the post office is a clothes and flower shop with what appears to be a party supply shop on a table outside, complete with the same party hats you find at several of the killer’s murder scenes.

And just to the right of the post office there’s what looks like an old warehouse appliance shop, but it’s been repurposed into some kind of makeshift office. Tucked off to the side is a sealed room you can’t access, and through the broken glass you can just make out a conspiracy board, the classic kind with red strings criss-crossing everywhere.

And right in the center of it all?
Marja’s face.

She even reports on one of the missing people, Börje Person, someone likely killed by the Apple Tree Killer. Was she just reporting it…Or was she documenting her own work?

Could Marja be hiding something darker beneath her role as a Resistance writer?
Is the Apple Tree Killer not a broken survivor… but a respected voice within the community?

The number of comments for this tropic is also scarily getting near to 666 :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I wonder if probably bunker 666 will open next post. :joy:

Interesting theories.
Btw, the article and the face of Marjan… I didn’t even know her name until now, or just forgot it…

“Om mig” as headline means “about me”. The headline at the top means “for a better future”. Finally… It could be interesting to visit all the pinned locations.
But I don’t think that there is a connection to the apple murderer.

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Hahaha!!! :joy::joy::joy: It bloody was staring me in the face!!! Unfortunately, I agreed with you about Marja before you showed me the truth of the name! It’s was way too convoluted a theory and I wasn’t basing any of my assumptions on concrete evidence. Thanks for the translations as well “about me” and “for a better future” definitely adds some weight when you read them in context. Gives her a bit more personality, whether or not she’s involved in anything shady.

Visiting all the pinned spots and piecing together the weird overlaps could be very fun, even if it turns out to be pure atmosphere. Half the mystery is just in the searching! :eyes:

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Welldone you found the location of the killer’s hut. :point_left:

There was a lot of detective work done to gather all the available clues, which led to the following 99% sure conclusion. :coffee:

Let’s try something new. This time no visual picture of a location to find, but a description of a location. Below you see a location that has 5 radar masts, with on each mast a small satellite disk. Can you just from memory think of another location that also has 5 small satellite disks? (I excluded procedural locations.)

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