Is there any way to keep stats on the Rivals that you encounter or kill? I know the map keeps up with their location.
@TheCatPlaysGamez that makes sense to have a cool down on the rivals because I had a region score 5514 and only one rival so it does make sense. I know there is also a loot cool down as well which is great so people don’t farm loot over and over and over again. After going into bunkers and other locations: about 10-15 of them I get bored and want to kill machines. What I have notice is the cool down only applies when you in game.
I work Monday thru Friday so with almost 10 hours or more from having my ps4 on, I notice the loot doesn’t come back. So I was like hmm maybe it resets in 24 hours, I never really google and research the cool down timer but I can confirm on multiple situation if you not in the game the cool down timer doesn’t move or my game is just glitch. It possible is because I can hear the tank under the floor, how am I suppose to kill something underground? Sometimes I don’t have the liberty to get on everyday but with the latest patch and OP rockets I play the game less and less and look into other co op games like path of exile that is free to play now.
I am not going to go to 15-20 locations to grab 30-50 medkits to use about 10 of them in one encounter with hunters. I do have friends that have the game but we in different time zones so it’s hard to be online when I am essential worker and have to be at work, I don’t have the liberty to be online all day. The more I play this game solo the more I will just wait until the patch comes and play other games. Final fantasy remake is out, plenty of games to play until the developers do something.
Even with visible perk on max and one spec in walking stealth, they can still see you and spam their rockets. If they don’t hit you with the rockets, they will just shoot in that direction and nonstop too. Before machines would sometimes just continue to shoot up a house of your last known location but with the patch, all machines are crank up to 20
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So I’ve been considering going out and maiming my newest rivals so when they reach max level they are easier to kill. Your saying that the weapons/parts I will have destroyed will “grow back” or regenerate?
Nice guide btw!
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They only do when rival levels up. E.g you shoot the weapon off from lvl3 rival, leave it be, kill some other machines, rival levels up to lvl4 and gets it’s weapon back.
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I’ll give you a heads up,
Get your rivals to Level 4, 8 per region.
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Not sure how often it happens - killed around 100 rivals up to now, met my first doggo:
Only saw hunters, tanks and harvesters and got mostly dupes. This one was carrying absolutely nothing except SMG ammo, even after reloading a savegame to try it again. Any opinions on drop rates with this class / about when the loot they carry is determined by the game (when they become a rival vs when they’re destroyed)?
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so there is no limit on how many rivals i can spawn in one part of the island ?
8 per region, 6 regions
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I’m working on an exact guide to cover this area. It’s linked with a special Vanguard build currently at Level 27 that covers weapon drops. There’s also something in WHAT you are carrying at what ammo at the time, but still collating data from everyone so should be ready next week or so.
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so you need help to level up ? i can join you for the fun same name on steam btw
Oh sorry my friend, I’m just jumping in while I get yet ( more ) data into this build of mine.
Here’s a few tips. Focusing on one area can get tedious, so mop up as many missions, side missions, collectables, etc. Do not kill any rivals, if you meet them - take out everything else - drop a flare and run away. You can let it kill you to rank up but that’s your choice.
Good tip to bulk out ANY area simply involves a Harvester. Leave it well alone, and take out everything around it. Once done, the hunters will no doubt keep being called in. Once the hunters are down, make sure to kill them with straight up ammo not using a gun that chains attacks like the lightning on the Kvm59 and once dead, shoot the harvester a couple more times and more will spawn. Rinse and repeat.
Don’t be keen to keep using adrenaline, if your close to a safehouse - abandon, re-spawn get yourself set and go at it again. Always try to draw the enemys away from the rival, It’s extremely frustrating when a rival gets killed by a machine ( especially at level 4 )
Depending on your level, choose your starting point smart - and look into the Relay Beacon spawns to create your own route of XP, machine kills to boost rivals, and progression to the challenge menu.
Here’s my map 2 days in with my new Vanguard, 38 rivals, 2 up North to do - then Archapelegio region ( 8 )
Happy Hunting
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I did exactly what you describe here, although unintentionally. I bought the game a few weeks ago, played through the story and side missions and tried to unlock all place markers. Tbh, I was afraid of the Rivals because my weapons were, for the most part, crap. Found a 5-star Klaucke and, presumably during one of the last misions, a 5-star AI 76. Not that great against tanks and harvesters. In the end, my map looked like yours, and I took a 4-star PVG 90 and tried to ‘clean up’. Result after hundreds of deaths: 8 exp guns, 4 dupes at that. And exp clothes that seem to drop way more often than the guns. Also got a few 5-star attachments. Depending on the perspective, I think I have been lucky, although having 3 exp AG4s isn’t helping anyone…
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I’d run an AG4 with AP, and another in slot 2 with FMJ
Break metal with the AP, drop a firework, switch to AG4 FMJ and clean up.
or
Snipe at distance using AP rounds, and have both AG4’s running FMJ.
And on another note, it’s nice to see that the Ai-76 is still available up North as part of the story. I was genuinely gutted that they didn’t make this an experimental instead of the AG4.
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I’m still not sure about the assault rifles. Early on, I was using the AG4 and got used to it, but to me it seems the AI 76 is slightly easier to control on full auto. I guess it depends on how many shots out of a mag you miss due to the kick vs raw damage output of the gun to get a DPS number. I suck at aiming (looking at you, auto-aim that actively sabotages my efforts) and it feels like I hit slightly more consistently with the AI 76. Might well be my imagination…
Having three exp AG4s in my Plundra mocking me feels awkward 
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Extra experimentals… I wish I had such a problem.
What platform do you play on?
I play on steam.
(This is adding characters to my message to hit 20 lol)
Well, there is a good community out there also playing on PC. Not my idea of gaming - but that said - the discord crowd are a very supportive community. Worth introducing yourself and you never know who may crop up that can help.
They have PC specific threads, and general gear and loot trading.
Bring your wallet 
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A military harvester, lv 4, just dropped my first exp shotty. Had the area on lv. 16 during that run.
Edit: I got one region to lv. 20 - what is the maxed out stat in this case? I’m not even farming right now.
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Hello, what platform are you playing on? I play ps4 pro and don’t know where to find such a community, I am from Belarus