If you think it gives us additional information. I hadnât thought of that old map. Good idea.
Or, as FÀrö is bigger than HimfjÀll, FÀrösundet extends between FÀrö and HimfjÀll. And the port would end up in 2, which makes more sense.
And the body of water north of FÀrö might classify as something different that a sound, as the top island might be too small for a sound 
It could indeed extends between FÀrö and HimfjÀll, but the port FÀrösund would find a better fit in 1, because Karlshamn feels like a bigger place and would fit in 2. That was my reasoning earlier.
But besides that, ĂstertĂłrn is bigger than HimfjĂ€ll and yet in lore the canal is called HimfjĂ€llsundet. 
Can you rephrase this, I donât get it.
I can try. The strait of water between FÀrö and the small island north of FÀrö is wider an sits between these two relative small islands. Thus it may not qualify as a sound (strait) but instead as an inland sea or part of the surrounding sea.
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And I was thinking why the heck is this gentlemen talking about sounds (noise) for.
So to recap.
⹠You think that the canal FÀrösundet is extended from the south coast of FÀrö to the west coast of FÀrö.
⹠The body of water running on the north coast of FÀrö is too wide to be a strait and probably more like a inner sea.
⹠For the location of the Port FÀrösund, you prefer location 2 above location 1. (Where I prefer 1 above 2, because I think Karlshamn is a town with a harbor which fits the bigger area at 2.) Do you have a reasoning behind your preference?
If you look at the waters between mainland Sweden and Ăland it is called Kalmar Sund. Between Gotland and mainland Sweden it is called Ă land Hav (Hav is Sea).
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What would your suggestion then be for that body of water, FÀrö Hav or something else?
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If Iâm a gentleman, it must be the Statler and Waldorf kind you are referring to 
Yes, yes, and probably. Iâm sure that I canât do a better job of reasoning at this than you.
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Yes, probably. We need a Swede here
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Itâs the different look at things that I look for. This quest is just like an investigation, where different ideas can help come to a solution that is acceptable, believable.
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Yes, that would be nice. Maybe FÄröhavet is fitting? It also means FÄrö Sea, according DeepL.
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Last question of the day. Have you read this?
I have two reasons: access to the open sea and road access based on contour lines.
Site 2 would have easier access to the open sea to the east, which I would deem important for a harbour servicing the military. And the inclination of the road leading to the harbour facilities are lesser, i.e. less steep facilitating trucks with heavier loads.
This would be my considerations 
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Nice considerations 
I think you forgot that Karlshamn is one of the three Port destinations, and should equally be considered for the two reasons you gave. The name FĂ„rösund only tells us that it must be located along the FĂ„rösundet strait. While Karlshamn port is a harbour indicating the need for more docking space, including non-industrial purposes, and perhaps more dwellings. Thatâs why I allocated the larger plot for Karlshamn.
But basically they could be switched since we have no data on how big each port is. 
Donât switch it on my account, @Gysbert . Iâm not deep into the lore, and I might easily have missed something. Unless others in the forum wants to add to the discussion, Iâll will confidently leave the decision with you.
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Thanks all who participated, for sharing your ideas and helping find the most believable locations for the names that were mentioned in the lore.
Basically I wanted to tickle some of the die-hard members a bit, to make them want to share their ideas, and experiencing the fun aspect of naming all geographical locations of an uncharted (not developed) piece of land. I can image the dev team sitting together and brainstorm on where to place important towns, facilities, mountains, waterways, etc. on the world map. And of course also coming up with names for them.
But I like to brainstorm with you some more.
The big Island has three high mountain peaks and tree mountains that are medium height. It has some plateaus in the East. And it has an Air Base and a lake. It might have names for sub-regions.
I propose to name the airport F17 Air Base, since that fits within the existing lore.
But for all the rest itâs up to us, where we combine, geographical properties (height, snow covered, etc) location, shape, with creativity to come up with name proposals. I have seen that lakes near mountains often have the mountain name in it, or the name of a valley.
Still I love to hear your reasoning behind it as well. Please come and play. 
Example: The big island has a highest peak. Which could become Number 3 âStorbergetâ The great Mountain.
I made a picture with numbers to help keeping track.
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Well you probably guessed it, I got too excited to find names that I spend my sunday adding geographic names like mountains, subareas, and the lake to the map. I also added some buildings at the Ports and some Lighthouses and Radar Mast. It was fun.
I thought it would be a nice touch to work the Swedish Three Crown symbolism and a Swedish king into some of the names. The three highest peaks were basically the peaks of a crown.
I also named the empty Island above âEmpty Islandâ, seemed fitting.
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Iâd never really given much thought to the big islands and their geography since theyâre inaccessible, but I think itâs a great idea to start naming some of the features. Of course, Iâm late to the party once again and youâve named the three! I do like the suggestion of calling number three âGreat Mountain,â since so many landmarks in Sweden have straightforward, descriptive names. With that in mind, the three peaks work well together with simple, size-based names in the Swedish style: the tallest as Storberget, meaning âGreat Mountain,â the middle one as Mellberget, or âMiddle Mountain,â and the smallest as Lillberget, meaning âLittle Mountain.â They form a clear and authentic set, the kind of straightforward naming that feels true to how real Scandinavian landmarks are often described. Still, Iâd like to imagine the Ăstertörn locals might have their own name for the three peaks, perhaps drawing from Nordic mythology and linking them to the three Norn sisters. In Norse legend, the Norns are three powerful figures who shape the fate of all beings: UrĂ°r, representing the past; VerĂ°andi, the present; and Skuld, the future. It feels fitting that the mountains could be tied to them, standing side by side as eternal symbols of time and destiny. At their feet lies a lake, which could naturally be called Storbrunnsjön âGreat Well Lakeâ, evoking UrĂ°arbrunnr, the Nornsâ own well. That said, your names are probably better once Iâve translated them! Should be a fun exercise!!!
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That said, Iâd really like to have a proper go at mapping the far north and far west âout of boundsâ areas, the parts you can actually get into and look around. There are some interesting cliff faces up there, a cave system, and even a small marshy pond area, but Iâve only explored them sporadically and never really spent a full day carefully mapping everything out. I donât have the same skill for map-making that you do, but Iâd love to see those grey terrain patches properly charted with the right colours for the forests, marshes, and snowy regions. The grey needs to go!!! It would be a huge project though, as the landscape gets strange at times with jagged, square-shaped terrain glitches, and when I ventured down into the far southeast the curvature of the ground even threw my compass completely out of whack. Hard to put into words, but itâs bizarre. Anyway, if youâre thinking of tackling those regions, definitely let me know, there might even be dragons lurking out there! Or a huge Gnome God!
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