i think that in this dark cold apocalypse survivors whould not chose a musket instead of a 50 cal and this is not a fantasy game, no cartoonish weapons
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and like is said, this game is suppose to be dark and cold and you know mystic, but we dont need âcrazyâ pirate weapons
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I can see the charm of getting your hands on something really special, but a musket would just be dumb. A weapon that would be difficult to find in the setting, that gives away your position, does minimum damage with poor accuracy and top everything off with a fire rate of one bullet per fiscal year.
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Could not agree more.
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A couple of ideas come to mind:
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The grenade launcher attachment to the N16
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A quest we are trek up to a mansion or residence that hold a museum collection of usable small arms. A tommy gun, .45 cal pistols (old west peacemakers and m1911) and perhaps some WW2 German firearms as well.
You never knowâŚ
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I would love to see a thompson rifle as well
but it would basically be useless, tommy guns arenât known for their effectiveness.
Why tommy, when we already have local (albeit post-war) M/46, and that is have in-game âsuper versionâ? If we really want WWII-era guns, then thereâs M/37 a.k.a. finnish Suomi M/31, but chambered for 9x19. But we still have slightly better M/46.
Infantry rifle? Thereâs not much use of modern hunting rifles. Proâlly get 'em military-grade (custom crafted) AP ammo? Even though we get âcollectibleâ operational guns, what odds of getting compatible ammunition? Okay, we already skipped that part with AKM, but still what pros of using antiques, when we have decent modern stuff, that for the most part allows hooking up doohickeys on 'em? Besides currently implemented hunting rifles are great âcheapâ crit-shooters thanks to their SP ammo and have high ammo efficiency if you know what you do.
Pistols. 7 rounds of .45 acp or 6 rounds of .44 magnum⌠While there is prostpect for former to get better mag. capacity, the latter is still winner for me due to scope mount. And itâs HP ammo.
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slightly more power than other auto-pistols (Glock, M9 and PPK), but not so much as .44 magnum.
comparing to other autopistols⌠sure, much caliber, such power⌠which isnât that great against machines as a sidearm. Even dorky PPK is good sidearm due to fact that it can consistently pump lead full of their chips because of high hip-fire accuracy. All that on the move. G17/M9 - good balance of power and capacity.
Will M1911 compeete with all that? Sure. Will it win itâs own niche? I doubt that.
SAA. Again - antique vs. modern. .45 colt is similar to .44 magnum, but latter is improved round with better velocity stats. Not to mention monstrocity of a reloading this thing.
Iâm so y because I see USA-pop guns EVERYWHERE. GZ was a small haven (before US pack) where I could taste something different.
Yes, all those âamericansâ have significant historical value and aestetic. But, Gâdeâm, they are ubiquitous up to cringe. Both âsweddishâ (developed by belgian FN) machineguns (MAG and Minimi, USA-codes are M240 and M249 resp.) also adopted by US armed forces, because they couldnât do anything to their M60 (that is, btw, based on venerable german design of FG42). USA even adopted AT4 single-shot AT rocket launcher, which of sweddish origin. Those three are forgivable.
M203 (that underslung grenade launcher) was actually adopted by Sweden (dunno when, SE army experts, please elaborate) and even hung on G3 and FNC. There was HK79 for the rifle, but wasnât adopted.
But please, no antiques and WWII tech vs machines.
In the immortal responces mails of undying ThePirateBay words: âAs you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe.â
Welcome Robby, I saw you suggest this in the twitch chat so thank you for getting it here.
I also agree it would be a great use for the grenades, as well as the smoke. I would welcome a battle in the dark with machines flooded with smoke rounds from a N16.
Why cant we all be lore friendly?
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No more US weapons please. They exist in almost every game there is.
The British L1A1 was almost totally phased out of service in 1990. So if the brits drop weapons to the resistance it would probably be that weapon and The Sterling smg. And probably the Bren gun chambered for 7,62.
No need to drop side arms to people fighting machines.
Just took British as an example. It could be french, german och spanish. There are lots of new weapons to add that are not american and that you donât see that often in games.
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and how whould a us ww2 submachinegun get into an island in neutral sweden and there are more weapons that whould be better, like the Kpist is better than an old relic from ww2
Yes exacly (bad english) we are our own country not some us playground or state
And one question for americans and other that wants us weapons in the game; do you even think of the lore of the game? you just weapons from your own country so you can show that your country is the best but it is not and please be lore friendly! no muskets and ww2 firearms. please
Please stop it. You can argue with lore and that US weapons make no sense to be found in Sweden due to itâs history but please donât use derogatory terms.
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Personally, I see this as something that could be used further down the line. I believe that Sweden actually had a handful of Thompson SMGâs.
But the main priority should be to throw in more weapons that would exist in Sweden. For example, in 1989, the Police were moving over to Sig Sauer pistols, unlike the Walthers that are in the game now. The Pistol 88 was very new in service and the armed forces still broadly used Pistol m/07.
And Sweden has its own domestic semiauto rifle, the AG42. In-game, it could be a more effective use of Meuser ammo later in the game.
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@Swe111, please keep a friendly tone and be constructive if youâre going to post in
#feedback-feature-requests. Regardless of your opinions on other countries.
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I do not want to show my country is the best. It may be that I like US weapons because I am from the US. And yes, I do think of the lore of the game. Whenever I think of a weapon or piece of military equipment would be cool, my first steps are to see of 1: It was available in the time period of this game. and 2:If there was ever a reason the weapons should be there.
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I think that it would be cool especially the riot shield
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The Sterling is still in use today. And it was manufactured until 1988. So itâs not a relic considering the time period. And the Bren thatâs from the 30:s was still in use with UK forces in the 80âs. And if UK were to help the resistance by dropping weapons by air as it seems the US has done. They probably would give surplus weapons and not the one that are the most modern.
German Mp40 was in use by norwegian homeguard up until about 1990.
Just because a weapon is from Ww2 doesnât mean itâs a bad design. Just look at the american 50 cal machinegun. Itâs design is from 1919 and still going strong. And I took UK as an example for weapons if the make another weapons pack.
what about a fat-man?
mini-nukes against tanks??
mini-nukes against machines???
???