Talk about the Planes and Airports in Generation zero

I agree, I would be just a bit more believable.

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Yes, we can think of many ex-plane-ations. :flight_departure: However, I think, the most probable one is the devs made a mistake in pairing the numbers on the planes to the air base in the game.

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oh that number, that is the airplanes homebase, the plane in the picture is from F15 söderhamn. the planes in the game have 17 there wich i mentioned above

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Yes, I knew it was the identification number indicating the fighters home base. But I wanted to know what this number is called in the Swedish air force. Could it be: ID-code, Squadron number, or designation code?

I found that American fighters have something called the Buzz-code.

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it would probaly bee Squadron number

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I tried Base Assignment code, Unit code and Wing code.
But the internet does not want to reveal this secret. :joy:

Could it maybe be a Wing code?

“In military aviation, a wing is a unit of command. In most military aviation services, a wing is a relatively large formation of planes. In Commonwealth countries a wing usually comprises three squadrons, with several wings forming a group (around 10 squadrons). Each squadron will contain around 20 planes.”

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when I did my militarytraining as a flightmechanic on the Viggenfighter on F4 there were 2 squadrons on that airforcebase, simply 1 and 2. The planes had the same cockpitnumber, 4. So the correct name for that number should be flygflottiljnummer in swedish, direct translates to airforcebasenumber.

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jag tänkte något liknade, men fick inte översatt det riktigt

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Translation:
I thought something similar, but did not get it translated properly

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:sunny: Although you indicate you’re not 100% sure about the name, let’s stick with that one for now.
Air force Base Number

In my searches I found a nice video site, which some of you might like too
https://www.milavia.net/aircraft/viggen/viggen_videos.htm

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As i mentioned in a post before. That Number in front underneath the Cockpit is a tactical Number. Within the Nato it is allways the number in front that could have different shapes. In Germany it is a number what stand for the kind of plane followed by the german Iron cross and then another Number what stans for the airbase the plane belongs to.
The Number on the Finn of the side rudder is a wing number what stands for the fighter squadron. In Germany it is also. Additional they had a combat sign like my profile sign (the little tazmanian devil). Here from the

Tactical Air Force Squadron 71 “Richthofen image

It is the Quick Reaktion Alert for the North Sea and located in Witmund North Germany.

That are the Numbers and signs of a Typhoon (Eurofighter) from the Hunter Squadron Boelke what is located in Nörvenich.

I think the swedish Numbers are the same and at the same place. All combat planes in the Nato have the same location of there tactical Numbers and signs.

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True that all Nato strike fighters have tactical numbers on them, but they are not all exactly the same composition or on the same location. Look at the Mig-29 Fulcrum, it has two tactical numbers under the wings, where the Saab 37 Viggen has one tactical number under the cockpit and one on its tail fin. Same as the Vråken in the game.

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That’s correct Gysbert. Not every time the numbers on a German combat plane is underneath the cockpit. There is a spec for the high of the letters. But all country’s have a tactical sign like the buzz code on the America planes what is not always under the cockpit. The German tactical sign indicates the type of plan (the 29) for the Mig 29 from 1990 - 2004 formally the 29 was the sign of the Starfighters from 1960 - 1971. The number after the iron cross is the number of planes what exist. For the Mig it was the number four of 20 planes. Together the sign is the Immatrikulation sign under what the plane is registered. All country’s have there own Codes for Identify their planes and there been always on the side of the fuselage near the cockpit at a place where it is good to see. All Swedish planes what I have seen had their number under the cockpit in the near of the nose like in the game. The newest Plane the Gripen has that in the same shape. It’s Dedication is always special for the country like Sweden stands for the home base of the plane. In Germany it is the picture like That what i have Posted. The American sign has an other meaning. But within the NATO the signs are known so a NATO command can identify the plane correctly

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In my quest to identify the “name of the number 17” on the Vråken, I had a communication with the webmaster of Milavia. He told me he didn’t know their official stance on it, but said the following:

"While being strongly tied to the air base, I’d say it’s not exactly accurate to say air base number, it’s just that each air wing has one (main) base, but you can see that in Sweden the wings are also associated with the country’s region, so I don’t think changing the location (base) would change the Flygflottilj number.
They had so many though that with air base closures, the wings would also disband, or vice versa…"

It was a fun quest, but unless I or someone else can find a official Swedish military stance on it I will keep the highly probable suggestion from @Lazur327 ( Flygflottiljnummer) for now when referring to that number.

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@Gysbert there is what some people (me included) Think is going to be an airbase on the northeast island. It definitely has the look of an airbase.
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Yes, I have seen that too. I sure looks to be an air base. Pretty exciting.
Do you think the devs read the stuff we write about liking more variety in the game world and more specifically in planes, ships and land vehicles?

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Having a bit of fun today. :wink: I decided to (approximately) measure the length of the F23 runway. Because I had nothing to measure with, I used the blue bike as measuring unit which surprisingly fits exactly 13 times between two runway lights. :astonished:


I then counted 100 runway lights from one end to the other, 50 on each side.
So the runway is (50-1) x 13 = 637 bikes long between the 1st and 50th runway light.
A normal bike for adults is on average 1.8 mtr long. Which makes the runway between the 1st and 50th runway light 637 x 1.8 = ~1146.60 metres long. :abacus:

Beyond the first and the last runway lights there is on either side space for at least 26 bikes. I measured this by running the same amount of time I needed to run the distance between 3 runway lights.

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They probably do when they need some inspiration.

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Yes, they do. :slightly_smiling_face:

Umm… stand in one end of the runway and in map view, put waypoint at the other end of the runway and then hover over the waypoint? (To see it’s distance from you.)

:wink: Yeah, but then you don’t know the distance in Bike units, do you?

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