This would not work in my opinion !
I already relate the game to terminator and stranger things.
Tho I would like a unique machine capable of opening doors, maybe not entirely humanoid but keeping the industrial look of FNIX.
I keep in mind the vacant bunkers and how unoccupied they are, it would be cool if they were full of machines fitting for such an environment.
Unpredictable and hopefully forceful in close quarters combat.
That would be cool. Personally I support the idea of terminators, but they probably would have to look different to match the game design.
James Cameron is an IP nazi so to speak. He ruthlessly enforces his copyright ownerships. I think it is something like 35k per license. Now typically, for attributions, parodies, easter eggs and such it is generally an OK letter. But to do the original justice which I think is the desire a proper license would be needed, but, here is the other kicker, there is not really been a high res rendering of a terminator either that I know of as far as model, animations, and such.
Plus to get two legal groups to talk to each other and get all the agreements hammered out can literally take a year or two.
Used as an easter egg, would a poster without a title but with a single cut-off humanoid metal skeleton arm be an infraction of copyright?
If enough variation was done on things it could fall under fair use. The problem comes into play when you have commercialized something as then profit motives come into play and the legal land mines get more complicated…
So, you can’t just make an original design? Like literally a bot with 2 arms and 2 legs that stands upright?
Difficulty.
You must be able to explain that it is different to another design with a copyright. Idk if there is a copyright or something else on the design of the classic terminator.
The difficulty here is also founded in the Generation Zero titelmusic, which is really close at one part to the famous Terminator titelmusic.
Ah, I see. So it has to be an obvious enough difference.
It has to be significantly different. Cameron is a veritible ip nazi.
There is a terminator mode in Ghost recon breakpoint. It was a fun addition.
But I’m not sure I want them in gz. All moving things in the game are enemies so if a person comes walking after a road I would know it’s a terminator. And it would be a weak machine. You can kill hunters twice the size of a human with a few well placed shots. So it would be difficult to find an argument why the terminator would be tougher. So maybe best not to add another weak enemy since most people want harder opponents and in most cases bigger ones.
I could see a terminator like thing very easily but not a “terminator” in everything i have seen of GZ thus far a terminator would not fit as they are however a quick and dirty GZ version of the terminator that i could very much see.
take a hunter shrink it down to the size of the player give it a solid armor plate chest (none of those moving bits of the original terminators but a chest that looks like pure armor plate maybe under it have some componenty things) and give it a hunter like head that props out the top and is attached different.
the armor it has would account for a difficulty equivalent to other hunters. oh and give it 3 finger 1 thumb kinda hands
I like that idea. And they could be really fast too. I may have said this earlier, but if we gave them actual hands (like what yamibelle was saying) they could open the doors to the house and chase you inside.
That would make them a harder machine by way of strategy at least.
Also, we might want to think about making the terminator bot a soviet bot, simply because I feel like the design would fit more. Not to mention the soviets have less bots so far.
No make it American not soviet. Give it an N16 and make them go after the others. I could also see them with numbers going after the sov and swed toasters too cause their design they could easily function as a tank or hunter or runner in effect. Or maybe make some “hunter killer” like thing based from the terminator kinda like a recreation of skynet based stuff came from America.
I don’t lile the idea of terminators, but this thing with the hunter killers is a point I already suggested, too. Search the forum for it.
Well, I think at this point we have decided that a literal terminator isn’t overly viable due to fines and things if that nature. I think what were more going for is a humanoid bot. Possibly Soviet or American. It would fight the machines and you.
Personally I still feel like it should be a Soviet bot since they currently only have two. But that’s just my opinion.
What kinds of attributes are we thinking we want it to have for the different classes of machine?
Oh i did honestly the credit for hunter killer bit goes to you i was just mixing and matching and mashing our ideas to bring the Americans to the fight.
Base them off of a 1980s 1990s styled skynet with a GZ twist
Thx for the credit.
Why pulling another active faction with machines into the combat? That would be too much in my eyes. The game already changed that much by adding the soviets. Of course, it’s cool to hear the distant battles while walking through a forrest.
But the once loved silence when walking around and hearing for a sign of machines is already gone most times.
And even if it’s cool to just watch a large battle between fnix and the soviets, a third faction in there would be too much.
Hunter killer machines for fnix like high flying mixes of harvesters (call in Hunters/runners like a dropship, maybe missile pods) and seekers are cool.
It could although be an alternative to the Reaper which has no problems with the terrain or obstacles, is not armed as heavy as the reaper and just has two shield generators… But is heavier to be hit as it is more agile.
Alternative to the terminator idea:
What about a little obsure idea regarding the soviet special forces soldiers?
It has been told that they wear exosuits!
So what if these exosuits are machine controlled, too? There could be living or dead soviet soldiers in exosuits walking around and fighting against their will.
If not soviet controlled there could even be some with a tick at their back controlling them. Imagine the living ones maybe screaming while being forced to walk side by side with the machines and being used as cannonfodder.
I don’t know if it could be realized with the games engine in a propper way. You know how the human animations look like.
It could bring a darker tone into the game with an anti-war-epos and a moralic gap. You see these human beings being forced to fight you and other machines by an AI. And you as player would be forced to defend against them who tried to help you against fnix and will be forced to kill these innocents.
Wow, I really like these thoughts.
Reminds me of the tick i saw molesting a dead body… i actually had to check with my wife to see if she saw it too. She bought me the game and loves watching me play.
The big trick is the T800 just does not fit the soliets.
Look at the things on the rolly balls i forget what they are called they are the soviet answer to the runners. The ball things are bigger actually watched a runner get run over by a loose ball.
The wolf looks to be the answer to the hunters
Speculation the bear would be answer to the tanks and likly a whole lot bigger then a tank.
Meanwhile in America a t800 would likly be their answer to the hunter and the “hunter killers” would be like the tanks.
But i agree 3 factions going at it would be a little much if they were all in the same area.