The Calle discussion

Can someone tell me where the heck FNIX is making more Because we take down the production facilities on Ostertorn and Himfall like Come on! They just keep making more! probably turned the airbase into factory knowing them maybe experimenting with the planes anyway ill stop im rambling

Are you sure that their main production is in the islands or they haven’t transferred the factories to mainland? Maybe the big part of Sweden is currently occupied by the machines… Oh, so delicious prospects for GZ2

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will the sequel to Genereation Zero be called Generation One?

Converted bunker similar in layout to FOA53.

All we see is the final shot at the end with the patients are kept

perhaps FOA 2 in the marshlands.
It’s most likely that all FOA locations is either a major manufacturing location or research location for the program.

But what is FNIX using the captured humans for?

Those humans there have been there before and I believe they’re in limited amount. You can’t really get more of those types of people. I’m putting it out there that I believe these people tried to sign up for a sickness treating program to try save their lives.

FOA tries to make a connection with a brain to a computer interface and make it that you don’t need to use joysticks or anything. That you can control a machine remotely by connecting a brain to a computer and using the brain’s neural signals to send information for the machine to execute. This in theory is how rivals work, this in theory is why machines are operating tactically. Ulmer is THEORETICALLY (can’t emphasize enough how off I might be) being the lead brain connected. Ulmer is the forefront of FNIX, using the military’s system to control these machines, but with the additional patients, they all exist inside of the machines.
Because Ulmer’s body is missing, we can’t tell if he actually does not need it anymore or if he has found ways to relocate it without disrupting the connection. Ulmer before revealing his existence inside FNIX orchestrated malfunctions in the system and ordered heavy amounts of resources through shipments to make the bodies by the beds last longer (indefinitely).
Anyway, all those connected bodies are used for their brain. The machines can work on commands, but can also be somewhat manually controlled through these connected minds. The motivation to kill human beings and exist as FNIX for all of this might be that all of these humans were out of hope when they joined the program. Why would they join a sketchy treatment place for their issues if there was hope and all was good? Now they have the ability to live and exist. In the beginning, they protected their existence by locking out and killing Swedish soldiers. They had weapons, now the resistance had weapons…

When IT the trailer says ‘I’m done being polite’, I think FNIX is no longer regarding human life. No more sentiment, just cold murder. The issue to wrap my head around is how it works within the connected minds. Do they work as a whole big hive-mind that uses Ulmer’s voice? Are the brains individual and can communicate, making Ulmer the spokesperson and leader of action? How did they come to terms with that then? Would they not have some minds that oppose these ideas morally or is all morality gone within them?

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Glad you chipped in on this one Pufty. Looking forward to seeing how your theory plays out.

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Spoiler! for DLC but to do with calle

Calle is alive you meet him at maskar!

i’ve had the impression that Ulmer had completely transfered his mind to FNIX and his body had passed from HIV/AIDS

Yes He was dying anyway I think his body probably died and they took it away in a bag thinking well we failed! WRONG Now we deal with machines that just love shooting us

I’m more curious about all those people in beds with wires connected to them… they were shown on monitors in control room in the mission Behind the Curtain.

I think those are the people FNIX has hooked up to his machines

Off the top of my head, I can’t quote directly, but in the last mission FNIX says something that would point it still needing the body.

“My birthplace… but… He is not here. I am not here.”

So, whether it’s -

  1. His body transported and hooked up like the ones to beds
  2. The Brain transported and freakily put inside a capsule
  3. Completely virtualizing his existence

His vulnerability or form is no longer there.

I think it’s number 3 but thats just my theory

Yeah, I would also theorize that Ulmer’s mind is fully transferred to digital state and he can create backup copies of him if he needs to, also giving a possibility to transfer all around the world and start global domination. ( Generation Zero 2 :crossed_fingers: )

Where would that be? Finland? Norway? Denmark? USSR? Germany? Or heck in Tea Land?

Tea land facepalms you mean England, but that not a bad idea look at Aldershot and it has the prefect environment for gz army bases, Qinetiq, air port and extra.
( this is my opinion )

With the secret messages from Calle concluded with the FNIX Rising DLC release, i’ll close this topic to avoid further off-topc replies in it.

//Mod

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