'Cos it’s a challenge! Design a base you can defend from inside - different mind-set. We know you can run round fields, and so can we, but can you design a base and defend it from inside? We have yet to find out… 
You can watch my video for some tips if you’re nervous! 
@Gysbert That’s totally fair man! It’s something you can leave for off days when you feel bored and want something to do in the game 
@Bootie I will take on the challenge at some point, but I won’t need any tips, thanks though! The apprentice doesn’t teach the master.
Haven’t seen it yet! 
If you like sneaky gameplay and Generation Zero check out The Light Keeps us safe if you just want sneaky gameplay on general look through steam or check out Sir, You Are Being Hunted it’s not perfect but it’s OK I guess. Hope that helped you if you didn’t need help your welcome for trying 
Thanks for your feedback, can you please elaborate on what exactly you find grindy, and what you think it can be done to fix this issue?
Here, i’ll talk about several game aspects.
Every time a machine is destroyed, there is RNG and random chance that you can get the weapon or weapon attachment from that machine. RNG alone makes the grind part.
For example:
I’ve played GZ from launch and bought Alpine Unrest DLC as soon as it was released. To this date, i have found only one! KVM 89 from machine loot pool and that was 3* version. The same quality as can be found in Himfjäll at known spawn point. But i have found several 4* and 5* KVM 89 attachments.
Same actually goes for KVM 59 as well. Highest quality i’ve ever found is 4* KVM 59. But i’ve found 6-7 6* experimental KVM 59s. Oh, i have no issue finding KVM 59 attachments either, in any quality. It’s the weapon itself, that is the rarest weapon drop. At least in my game.
Here, the same method is used. Every time a Rival is destroyed, there is RNG and random chance that you can get the experimental weapon from that machine. Sure, higher level rival increases the chance of getting experimental weapon but it still is a “chance”.
For example:
I’ve gotten experimental weapons from level 1 rivals quite often, while when i go through the trouble to level up the rival to level 4, often i don’t get any weapon.
Just like with weapons and attachments, there is also RNG and a chance to get apparel crafting schematic from rival loot pool.
Since the drop is so rare, i only have some of the 3*, 4* and 5* apparel schematics. Though, in the forums, people who have found almost all of them, say that there are duplicate drops, making collecting them all even harder.
I, personally, have not seen the duplicate apparel schematic drops in my game, but i only have 24 3*, 4*, and 5* apparel schematics in total, out of 69. But if duplicates are a thing, chances of getting the last 1-2 out of 69 are slim. And when RNG is also put into the mix, chances drop considerably.
Here, i’ll talk about several ideas what can be done.
Our previous CoMa, Graham, presented to us a “bad luck protection” in 12th Feb 2020 dev stream.
His explanation is at 00:52:28, link: Twitch
What Graham is talking about, is essentially where when player has killed X amount of machines, the drop after that is guaranteed.
This reduces the grind considerably since now, there won’t be RNG when it comes to the chance of getting the item from machine loot pool. But there still would be RNG of what item you’d be getting, leaving some grind behind.
When GZ 1st launched, there were guaranteed 5* weapon drops from FNIX tanks and about 50% chance to get 5* weapon attachment as well. Drop chance was lower on FNIX harvesters, about 50% chance for a 5* weapon and 20% chance for a 5* attachment.
That system worked well, since you could find 1* to 4* weapons and 1* to 5* attachments from the world just fine (either known spawn point or from loot crates) and 5* weapons dropped only from the toughest machine (FNIX tank and FNIX harv), complemented by the chance of 5* weapon attachment drop.
But with that nice system, there was a problem. There were players in the game who didn’t want to play the game as it was intended (explore, find loot boxes, collect your ammo from the world), instead, they wanted to get the loot from the machines they destroyed.
So, in the June '19 update, the devs implemented the system where you can get first aid kits from enemies and 80% of wasted ammo back when taking down harvs/tanks.
“Machine loot” - June Update Now Live | Generation Zero
That change brought the RNG to the game, making finding any weapon/attachment, and now, apparel schems, from machine loot pool, a gind.
At current date, players can craft all ammo types + even experimental ammo if they so desire. And the loot crates amount isn’t dropped in the game world either. Instead there are now more loot crates in revamped parts of the map than there were in vanilla game, presenting a question:
Do we still need to get the 80% spent ammo back from the (bigger) machines we just killed?
I say: No.
Here, i think that devs should undo the “Machine Loot” change and go back how things were, where:
Since experimental weapons are late-game weapons, they are locked behind character level of 25. This is a good move. However, to lessen the grind of finding them and to give rival leveling up far more value, the following weapon drop chances can be implemented:
Rival level 1 = 0% chance of experimental weapon drop
Rival level 2 = 25% chance of experimental weapon drop
Rival level 3 = 50% chance of experimental weapon drop
Rival level 4 = 100% guaranteed experimental weapon drop
This way, there is value of why to go through the trouble of leveling up a rival, since when you’ve maxxed out rival level, there is a guarantee that you’ll get an experimental weapon from it. Though, what that weapon exactly is, is still RNG.
Just like experimental weapons drop chance i suggested above, same can be done with apparel schematics drop chance as well. Where;
Rival level 1 = 0% chance of apparel schematic drop
Rival level 2 = 25% chance of apparel schematic drop
Rival level 3 = 50% chance of apparel schematic drop
Rival level 4 = 100% guaranteed apparel schematic drop
This way, all players, including those who aren’t level 25 yet, can get the 3*, 4* or 5* apparel schematic, if they go through the trouble of leveling it up, rather than killing it as soon as it has spawned.
And to protect against duplicate drops, game can check your current apparel schematics, so that there won’t be any duplicate drops.
Thanks for reading. 
Well talk about good timing. It’s not finished but I am currently working on a video about this very thing, though it covers more than just grinding. It’s easier if you just wait and watch it when it’s out, because writing everything here would take me ages. Anyway, what I’ll say is that because everything in terms of loot is centered around killing machines. Despite crafting material being around the world, it’s simply just faster and less boring to kill machines. However since everything is random it leads to being repetitive because there isn’t anything else in the game that offers different loot sources.
(well technically you can just walk around and loot, but honestly looking for stones on the beach is more engaging)
Let’s take the Reaper for example, as you know to get it to MAYBE spawn you gotta have a set number of level 4 rivals active in the map. However, even if you have the set amount of rivals, that doesn’t guarantee a reaper spawn. So it becomes a cycle of killing and killing the same thing over and over again, while this is basically games, there’s nothing in the process that makes it fun. At least for me, that is. Once you have killed said Reaper, despite the fact that you perhaps got some EXP guns. The grind isn’t technically over, because the end goal is to hoard ammo and medkits. In general, there’s nothing stimulating during the process. What the game needs is more worldbuilding that properly works in mechanics of the game within the story and lore, the weapon packs are the perfect examples of not doing this. They just exist, no in game lore, no quest, no reason to exist.
Like I said I’m making a big video with way more examples of this, will probably be done over the summer. It will provide more examples and criticism about the whole game.
I also believe there may be too much loot and not enough sources for that loot to come from, we keep adding fluff to the pool and it will keep getting more and more bloated until it just breaks and ceases to function properly.
Also, the latest updates have not really helped much as the devs keep burning down or just straight up deleting lootable areas such as towns and replacing them with burnt fields that have nothing to loot except a few lore breaking corpses.
I missed the video when it was first posted, but it echoes what I said over the last year, so that’s a +1 to @sillmacka from me right there. As for the discussion about loot and grind, @Aesyle wrote a thorough analysis, and there’s not much else to say about this from my point of view. I can add that in my game, the loot pool was very generous, as I got quite an amount of experimentals and 5* guns and attachments, so much that I traded them away as they cluttered my inventory.
As far as I can read the room, the direction the devs took isn’t likely to be reversed any time soon, so maybe the one thing they should take away from the whole discussion is that they either should have launched in ‘Early Access’ or alternatively should have clearly stated that the game is on a ‘live service’ model and likely to change noticeably over time. As some others have already said, the player base that preferred the stealthy, difficult approach over the looty-shooty variety seem to have gotten the short end of the stick.
Aesyle is clarity within this forum.
I don’t know what a video covering what we already know will achieve.
Though, you never know what someone knew will bring to the table. Let’s hope it’s more constructive than the last one.
This is a really good post, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the very detailed and thought-out answer!
Thanks for the answer, it sheds a bit more light on the original statement. Let us know when your video is out, and don’t forget to include some of your own ideas on how to address the issues you point out! 
If you are referring to me, then the video will be about analyzing various aspects of the game, and providing examples and criticism on what can/could be done to create more depth and less grinding. It won’t really achieve anything cause even if I did present something that could realistically be done with the devs current recourses and time, it’s for them to decide if it works or not. Initially, my review of the content that was released during 2020 would have been combined with said feedback/criticism part. But I realized during the writing process that it would be way too long of a video, so feedback/criticism is gonna be the follow-up. I’m still writing it, but it’s looking like it’s gonna at least be an hour long.
Me and my friends haven’t played in months. I played 378 hours so far but the last few updates didn’t succeed in getting my attention and I think I can express succinctly why:
Although the game has amazing combat mechanics (ex: taking down a hunter’s gun, having him jump over you then double-barrelling his back canister - the best gamer feeling 2020), it became very difficult to actually get into a combat situation of significant magnitude.
Most evenings we’d just fast travel from known hot-spot to another but some nights those spots were vacants, some nights we just walked and traveled non-stop. At some point we want to use those fancy guns and we want to use them when we want to use them, not after going through a walking simulator, not after doing tedious “missions” that are seemingly unrelated to anything lore-wise.
In short, how tedious it was to find proper combat began to outweigh how satisfying combat was.
I don’t know how to fix the game and I don’t think it should be up to me, but I think it starts with more shooting. Full disclosure, me and my friends are mostly from a background of first-person horde survival type game (killingfloor).
Great post highlights I think everything that I would say and in tons more detail
Is it going to factor in Resistance update
Yes, that’s one of the larger parts of the video
I’ve learned from doing Vision that there are many different perspectives on how players experience GZ. Resistance no longer is about new content - because it’s all been spoiled already, but the changes from it will be interesting to see.
One of the biggest points I agree with is how they keep releasing updates and paid add-ons that are either broken or are completely unnecessary and I wish that they should have made DLCs like Alpine Unrest: High quality, brought something unique, and it was atmospheric even for late game players.
I wish we could somehow reverse this madness, bring the game back to its origins, not whatever this is, I didn’t buy off brand Destiny or Far Cry, I bought an Atmospheric Stealth shooter with a unique story and concept, it is very hard to find games like this that are not completely full of Online Multi-player stuff and LootBoxes.
I really think the Devs should get into contact with Sean Murray of Hello Games, he turned his shipwreck into a 5* executive cruise ship. With an even smaller team, intense hate from the gaming community, and no relation to a big company like Avalanche.