I agree entirely with you @drimaxus.
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Why TF do people spend money on this?
If they did implement visual customization they should keep it to simple colour changes or stickers you can slap on the weapon. They should probably not go the paid route, as you could come across stickers and paint in the world by looting houses and robots.
I don’t want them to go over-the-top on it. Again, keep it realistic.
I would like a camouflage sticker on my Augusture* hunting rifle though, could add some personality.
*Probably spelt wrong
Ghillie camouflage could be a cooler alternative to paint and stickers, as it would fit in more with the realistic tone of the game.
Fwiw, an älgstudsare is a studsare for älg. A hunting rifle for elk / moose.
Agree 100% & will never understand why people want to make every game they play exactly the same. I see it all the time in this forum this & that game does/has why can’t we… Inventory like Fallout, Crafting like (insert game here), Driving vehicles like is (insert game here), Base building/Easy mode for single player/Melee weapons/Modern laser sights…etc. I like the guerilla action always on the move, inventory restricted, 1980’s feel of this game myself & see no reason why it should become a carbon copy of so many other games on the market…Will add there are some good ideas in this thread that do not involve Fortnite like skins/stickers that could keep with the games feel…But sadly it looks like my opinions are in the minority camp here in the forums…
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Sorry I’m not a gun expert. I wish I was, but I was born in Canada.
And the only firearm I’ve ever laid my hands on is my family’s heirloom which is a modified single shot bolt-action rifle. It was my great grandfather’s. He apparently used it after the 1916 uprising in Ireland, and I can very well assume what it was used for, as it has three notches on the rifle butt.
Not sure what caliber, but I assume he cast his own ammunition for it.
Thanks for the info though, you learn something every day!
Oh, I was just helping with the Swedish. If you can read a little bit I think it can help.
I’m not a gun expert either, and only really met guns I probably shouldn’t.
What annoys me are those people who have played some other game and the mechanics in there are what they are used to. Then they come here (GZ) and since game mechanics are different, they cry out about it since in GZ, it isn’t the way like they are used to.
For example: there have been requests to add weapon selection wheel into the game (like the one in GTA V). Since a lot of players play GTA V, that weapon wheel is something they are used to. And now, they also want to see it here.
Making game similar to other game isn’t game evolvement. What makes game stand out from other games is it’s uniqueness (artwork, story, mechanics). And each game uses different mechanics to do something. Some mechanics are smooth and fast while others are clunky and slow. But that sets the games apart.
One of the later mechanics addition was weapon switch with mouse scroll wheel. I don’t like it nor use it since i’m used to the original weapon selection via hotkey, present since launch. It would be nice if it could be optional (mouse wheel rebind), rather than forced upon (as it is right now).
I value the uniqueness of a game, not how similar it is to other (popular) games. If all games would be similar to each other then what we’d have are (boring) clones.
Either they get used to with the mechanics in GZ or they go play some other game that has their beloved mechanics in it. That’s my take on it.
I get the request of QoL improvements like a weapon wheel for players who find it useful (I don’t). But I see this particularly with survival elements or other more story or content related features. This game is this game.
Hot keys are much faster and less error prone for weapons. I’d love the scroll wheel for the slots 4-7 only (“utility wheel”). And a rebind would be the best option, of course.
I dont play other survival games nor AAA commercial stuff and that is why I like GZ, but to be honest I find the game too easy as it is right now so I would really like some features added to increase difficulty, survival stuff would be a possibility to make it more complex to handle but it doesnt have to be THAT.
Maybe less room for inventory would be another? weapons are too powerful as it is now. Or maybe a hardcore version would be nice, I had to drop my pvg experimental cause it is too broken right now you can kill everything easily with it and there is no more reason to use adrenaline shots anymore.
Ironically, part of what I find so engaging about GZ is how it pivots away from most of the survival genre. None of this, “you need to eat, drink, and sleep, or your bars will empty out,” garbage.
I’ve seen games where that did work, but so many of them it’s functionally, just, “you have four kinds of health, and need to refresh 3 of them with different recovery items, while you need to manage the third, and three are taking constant damage.”
It doesn’t mean there’s no potential to pick up interesting things from other games, but at the same time, GZ wouldn’t really benefit from a full base building system, or massive PvP.
I could see a skin system, with stuff like period appropriate camo patterns, but given how the machines “see,” it wouldn’t actually do anything. At that point, weapon skins would be about “showing off,” to other players, which is something we already have with the clothing system, and weapon skinning wouldn’t do much to contribute.
Additionally, there’s already a degree of weapon skins baked into the game, with each crown tier being visibly different from the tier below it. (Granted, the difference between adjacent tiers tends to be pretty subtle, aside from 1 to 2.) Want to show off that you’ve got a cool gun? Get the five crown version or the experimental variant. Now you can show off, and the gun runs better as a bonus.
Well said & I wish people would look (like you did) at the things that make this game unique not how they can make it the same as so many games on the market.
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Exactly it is not game evolvement at all. Why do so many just want “cookie cutter” gaming I simply will never understand…Good post.
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It can be a “comfort food” thing. “I enjoyed this experience over here, but I’d like it with a slightly different flavor.” There’s nothing wrong with that on its own, but, asking games to be more homogeneous, rather than looking at the unique things they do, is detrimental.
As a direct example of that, Generation Zero is the closest I’ve seen to a new STALKER game in years. (Not counting the mods, or the franchise zombie MMO.) I liked STALKER a lot. It was a really good, if QA challenged series. However, I don’t think Generation Zero would benefit from the addition of mutants or anomalies. It is, it’s own thing.
It can also, sometimes, be useful to look at other games and see what they do and how that works. In the context of looking at STALKER, I can say, the addition of a more conventional set of human NPCs, who operate in an ambiguous friend/foe state could have a positive effect on the game overall. If you’re seeing NPCs moving around in a town, but you can’t tell from a distance if they’re looters who will ignore you to scavenge, or looters who will turn on you the instant they see you, that could add some serious tension to the game. Does GZ need that? No. Would it benefit from it? Maybe. It’s a thought that’s worth kicking around, based on experience outside the game.
As you may know, I think that the game has a shortage of worthwhile rewards. The game basically has guns and accessories for the guns and that’s pretty much it.
Well, what if we could change things up a bit, to give players the ability to find stuff that feels more rewarding and special.
What I’m thinking of is the ability to find variants of the already existing ones that look visually different and have perks. What I’m talking about is, from an artistic perspective, nothing but alternate textures. Let’s take the AG4 as an example.
Sticker: IRL, some of the AK4’s had a black sticker with a ballistics chart on it. By equipping it in-game, you deal increased damage at long range.
Gentleman’s: Has a wood stock, pistol grip and foregrip. All adjacent players will earn more XP while this weapon is equipped
Camouflage: Late production AK4’s had the same olive drab paint as the later AK5 would have. This naturally makes it more difficult for machines to see you.
This principle could potentially be applied to all weapons in the game, although some skin-weapon combos could be odd, like pistols with ballistic stickers.
What are your thoughts on this?
Same feature request topics merged.
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No. Just no. GZ isn’t Fortnite.
It’s been quite a while since I played Fortnite, so I have no idea what you’re talking about. Isn’t it more similar to Fortnite as it is right now, with different colors indicating different conditions of weapons?
And also, why should we avoid a feature just because it’s in a really popular game? It’s not like I’m suggesting some garish CS:GO-style paint job, I’m suggesting stuff that really were a thing.
These are not some childish fantasy things, but stuff that existed in real life in Sweden in the 80’s. In fact, apart from the wood finish, which predates the Swedish adoption of this particular rifle, these were used in Swedish service.
And while soldiers aren’t allowed to customize their guns in stupid ways, a lot of swedish soldiers HAVE TO learn how to properly camouflage their weapons, most commonly for winter conditions by using white tape
The question is why you’re so strongly opposed to it. A major issue I see with GZ is the lack of rewards. All you get is gear and beyond superficial clothes (often every bit as stupid as what you see in Fortnite), there’s not really that much of it. This would enable the quite small GZ team to ad something that feels significant to the player (cool, unique weapons) at a small cost (new textures). It’ll allow players to make more strategic prioritizations of what weapons they use than just “whatever I happen to have ammo for at the moment”.
As a matter of fact, I really wonder if you read my thread before you merged it, because what I’m suggesting is quite different from the original post.
For that, you can read my above replies in this topic.
At best, while i can understand few, different color schemes for weapons, specific to the situation.
But cosmetic and practical additions giving “magical” bonus buffs? No. Just no.
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People run around looking like Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees, or a miniature FNIX tank and people are complaining about a weapon skin not being realistic,… are,… you,… kidding,… me,…