Dangerous Experiments Feedback Thread

going in and out of the map is much quicker now on Xbox one X.

Just got my hands on the Exp. “Algstudsare” and I just have to say that I was impressed by the damage it deals to the bots, when you manage to hit them…

Now that is just the problem with this gun, the sight is really not very well designed. I think the devs misunderstand why grenade launcher sights look the way they do and how they work, because they have gotten it backwards on this gun. The image below explains how this type of sights are supposed to be used.

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Thx for the picture.
And that’s how it works actually in GZ:

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The shooting angle is wrong. It’s firing straight forward, not slightly upwards. Because of that, aiming with its sight is almost impossible.

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Agree - the iron sight makes no sense, which is another reason this weapon is rather useless imo. For this type of sight to work at all, you have to be able to tilt the weapon, which isn’t at all possible in GZ - so no matter what the sight will be useless.

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How it’s currently realized it just fits for hipfire.
How the aiming (R2/right mouse button) currently works for the g79 and the Älgstudsare is completly wrong.

Aiming in GZ always changes your line of sight vertically and horizontally.

For these grenade launchers and maybe even for the bow (flare/explosive arrows) it has to be changed that if you press R2/right mouse button your line of sight should be fixed vertically at where you were looking at and just is moveable horizontally. Vertically you would instead move the iron sight for changing the angle you’re firing with.

Of course, that wouldn’t be “run and gun” with these weapons anymore, except for hipfire, but it would enable consequent aiming.

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That would be a good solution if feasible in the game engine.

Otherwise I hope that they at least can add some more stadia lines on the cross-hair you have when using it from the hip. With some more stadia lines the hold over would be more repeatable.

I use exp Älgstudsare as howitzer to “wake up” bunch of machines. I must say, after some training it is surprisingly accurate so I was able to seriously damage Harvester before it realized where I am firing from :smiley:

I am also using it as howitzer and have gotten quite accurate with it now after some practise.

With just a few hits it is easy to drop proto harvesters and tanks, also military harvesters go down really quick when you dialed in the aim.

Also it is a real killer for taking out big groups of russian balls.

Its a lot of fun to use =)

Exactly :smiley: Staying covered and shelling balls and runners when they are shooting each other is fun :smiley:

Regarding the new crafting system and values I would love to see some tweeks.

Since dangerous experiments in my eyes it became quite difficult to craft advanced med kits compared to adrenaline.

Adrenaline once was a rare item with some fixed (and hidden) locations and low chance to get it from loot. This chance was (at least it seemed like that) increaseable by just carrying about 2 of them.

Advanced met kits where rare, but not as rare as adrenaline. With the soviet speznaz machines they became an item which was “easy” to get by loot… But crafting them always was an important part for always having enough. And keep in mind that the speznaz soviets just roam around in the northern parts of the map.

At least for players who didn’t already progress there, they are still hard to find most of the times.

Before the update, crafting costs were easy to spend and you always got 10 medkits each time. Now, with 12 textiles needed for a single advanced med kit, it became hard to craft as much as you need.

Adrenaline, as new craftable item but with higher rarity, is quite easy to craft. Well, you need fuel. But the numbers of fuel you can find by loot are much higher than for example the numbers of textile. And you’re even able to craft the needed 100 fuel easily.

Of course, it’s different for each player, but the differences in the craftabilities of these two items should be balanced more.

One thing that would also help for med kit consumption: of course most will carry just advanced med kits. They are the best. But if they are empty, you are forced to open your inventory to select another med kit type for your weapon-wheel slot, which isn’t always possible in the moment you need them.

I would love to be able to select a slot (or alternative quick access button) as med kit slot. This slot could have an option to set the priority of items to use in. For example like that:

  1. Advanced med kit
  2. Standard med kit
  3. Light med kit
  4. Exp first aid kit 1
  5. Exp first aid kit 2

Now, if my advanced first aid kits are empty, it could automatically refill the slot with the next item in order.

I got used to just carry the advanced ones because they were easy to refill by crafting and because it takes so much time to change the med kit type on the slot. Because of that I didn’t pick up other med kits from loot. Too much weight for too less use. By changing one slot as described, I would use all that I can find and need.

Nevertheless, I would suggest to increase the number of crafted med kits to 5… Or to reduce the needed ressources for a single one.


It’s just balancing.


It’s like with the ammo for the pvg. In the past I was lucky to have about 100 rounds in my inventory. Well, it’s the strongest weapon, the ammo may be rare. If needed, I was able to craft it quite easily.
Now, crafting is much more expansive and you just get 3 rounds each time… Instead of 60. “Well, strongest weapon, may be rare…”, but on the other hand I’m able to get more rounds by just crafting less expansive ammo boxes…

Or I just hunt machines… Because while it seems that it’s a rare and expansive item if I look at the crafting, it isn’t any more in the world. Especially tanks, wolves and firebirds drop about 2 to 10 times more than I need to kill them.

As I began: I was lucky to have about 100 rounds with me. Most of them by crafting.
Now I always have some hundreds of them with me, just because I decided to let them in my inventory, while I dropped most of them into my plundra (currently about 3.500 rounds in there). That’s crazy.

Have not yet noticed this, but now when you pointed out the cost i started to think about it. I use these as my go to first aid when get big hit. Top off with standards when needed. So far my crafting resources are holding this.
But i get huge amounts of these advanced and standard med kits by doing assignments.

Always have been little bit minmax in certain games, and i avoid over healing myself like using 2x adv.med kits to boost my health for short period of time. (Exception is when get poison gassed by machine, then i consume them like candy)
Rubber band mechanic in damage received works for you favor in some situations, and save some unnecessary healing.

But i agree that crafting cost of med kits might need some adjusting. Every player is little different, and different play styles. Game needs to support these equally as it goes to game mechanics. This makes game play enjoyable and fun to play.

Another alternative:

The sight could have something like a crosshair in the center of the screen that always is fixed and calculates the distance of the selected target. Depending on the distance the gun (and its ironsight) could be adjusted automatically.

It should be defined, for which distances the sight is made for, although the gun is able to shoot even further.

But by this you could see how far your target is, if you’re able to aim at it. For further distances you would have to use hipfire and some luck, or would aim blindly: you would be able to shoot the targeted distance, but without being able to see, if your target has moved.

Maybe I can add some graphics to show what I mean.

Sidenote: the only negative effect I see is, that the iron sight jumps on the screen up and down if the targeted distance suddenly changes rapidly because a tree, house, another moving machine or something else comes into sight. Wouldn’t be nice…

Edit:
I don’t know how to create something that could show my idea… Just two screenshots. They show a rock in about 80 meter distance.
If I want to hit it, I need to target with the second line below the crosshair (hipfire).

Now, even if I know for which distance I would have to use which line (straight range), I just don’t know how far away my target is.

Additionally, if I don’t have straight range, because I have higher or lower ground, it doesn’t work anymore…

Hello everyone :wave:

As the designer behind the new experimental weapons I just wanted to say I really appreciate the feedback shared in this topic! It sure helps a lot, giving us a much better idea of how things can be adjusted and improved.

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On that note, I hope you’ll be happy to hear that all x3 new experimental weapons will be tweaked and rebalanced to some extent, largely based on the feedback from you, our community!

These changes should roll out with the next patch. For those of you who want more details about the exact adjustments made I suggest that you keep an eye out for future patch notes!

Thanks again for the feedback, know that we appreciate it! :pray:

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Ah so stoked to hear, really looking forward to the changes!

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I dont know if this is something that can be changed but the animation after firing the last round in the magazine is in my opinion a little strange.

So now the animation is the following

  • Last round fired, the bolt is cycled (open-close) like a normal reload.
  • The bolt is opened (again)
  • Old mag out, new mag in.
  • Bolt is closed.

When I shoot IRL I normally either change the mag first then cycle out the spent cartridge and in with a new or I leave the bolt retracted after the last round then change mag and charges a new round in to the chamber depending on how hard it is to seat the magazine properly with the bolt closed.

One could perhaps argue that the character in the game is not counting the number of rounds fired and doesnt realize that the last round is fired but this makes little to no sense in a manually operated gun with only 3 rounds in the magazine.