Schematics - Lets talk about it

Hello all :slight_smile: yes i have had ones drop from rivals, sorry can’t remember if any dropped from normal tanks.

As a side note you need the previous schematic to actually use the higher schematic.

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Just as i predicted, the resistance bonus is same as the schem tier is. :slightly_smiling_face: E.g 4* bullet-resistant jacket schem gives 4% bonus. Same schem but 5* version should give 5% bullet resistance bonus.
With the exception of fall damage resistance and visibility reduction. These two are considerably more.

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Found this duplicate for something. Didn’t say what is was when i picked it up.
I will get the location coords, and edit them into this post.

Is it the same one i talked about here: Schematics - Fixed Locations :thinking:

Whats the drop link on the 5* schematics, any particular setup favourable to drop?

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3*, 4* and 5* schems are RNG drop from Rivals.

It is rival drop? I thought it was higher level enemies. Like tanks and harvesters, And they did not need be rivals. Thanks for the info!

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Yes. 3*, 4* and 5* schems drop only from Rivals. This also gives less than lvl25 players reason to go after Rivals.

Thats really useful information! Now i have a reason to destroy my rivals!

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The current machine loot table, considering weapons, weapon mods and schems is as follows:

Proto harv/tank - 1* and 2* weapons + mods
Mil harv/tank - 3* and 4* weapons + mods
FNIX harv/tank - 5* weapons + mods

Apo runner - 1* and 2* KVMs + KVM mods ( + when on Himfjäll: any item in Resistance clothing set)
Apo hunter - 3* and 4* KVMs + KVM mods ( + when on Himfjäll: any item in Resistance clothing set)
Apo tank - 5* KVMs + KVM mods; 5* weapons + mods ( + when on Himfjäll: any item in Resistance clothing set)

Rival - 6* weapons (no drop, until char lvl25 or above) + 3*, 4* and 5* schem + any item in Experimental clothing set

Also, the Rival status doesn’t override the regular loot table, it adds to it. This can lead to a situation where taking out e.g Rival FNIX tank, you get two weapons from it, one 5* and one 6*.

Proof of the latter

Taken before March '20 update (with old inventory);
Here, i killed Rival military harv. As seen from loot table, i got two weapons: 3* s-rifle (regular loot table) and 6* .50 cal (Rival loot table). Experimental jacket is also from the Rival loot table.

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Thanks for the info. Now i know where to get some more schemes.

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Ooooh very nice. Good clarity on this - very handy to know as there are over 100

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Or it can lead to a situation where rival hunters have nothing else than a measly few .44 rounds, etc.
So I guess it can add to the loot table but it must not necessarily, right ?

Oh and they really should rework the loot table of FNIX and APO hunters, especially the latter because of a real waste of ammo + (often enough) medpacks and mostoften getting only crap (=nothing) in return.

Your on console right?

Yes. Though, all loot drop is RNG based and given how many hunters players have killed and based by the effort of killing a hunter (vs killing the harv or tank); it would make sense of Rival hunters giving something value very rarely.

What the exact formula for machine loot drops are - that i don’t know. Also, devs have said that they’ll look into “bad luck protection” to help out with the poor loot drop ratio. (It is a system which grants you a reward after X amount of kills.)

Though, devs do get telemetry for the game and based by all players combined + how many experimental drops there have been, devs have said that the experimental weapon drops are at reasonable ratio.

Hello, is there a guide where to find the 2 - 3 - 4 or 5 star “sheets”? To create clothing. Thank you

Hey @Mich3le :slight_smile:

@Aesyle has pinpointed the fixed locations of all 1* and 2* schematics. See this link:
Fixed location schematics

The 3*, 4* and 5* schematics cannot be found in the world, but have to be looted from Rivals. They don’t drop very often, so expect a good deal of work ahead of you if you want to collect them all. :wink:

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Thanks very much for the information, it will mean that I will make a massacre of rivals :wink:

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