Levelling-up and related numbers

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I started ending the last two levels, when it had only one slot to go, by destroying only small machines on Archipelago. Ticks, Seekers and Runners, and Hunters in the beginning. Nearing the end, I started destroying one machine at the time, run away, hid, and waited until the score bar showed. Repeated this until the next level was reached and gave me 5 uranium. Then I wrote down the total XP reached so far.

  • Level 87 ended with 4468910 XP (With a max possible overflow of one Prototype Runner’s XP)

  • So Level 88 started with 4468910 XP
    Level 88 ended with 4538906 XP > Difference gives total XP 69996 / 21 = ~3333 XP per slot

I had some overflow issues with level 89, when more enemies were killed in an unexpected cars explosion. I couldn’t get a reliable XP reading for that level, that’s why I combined the levels 89 and 90, see below.

  • So Level 89 started with 4538906 XP
    Level 89 and 90 together ended with 4678899 XP > Difference gives total XP 139993 / 42 (2x21) = ~3333 XP per slot.

I did a single slot reading by noting each kill for the last slot killing low XP Machines, which was 3304 XP. So with an overflow into the previous slot, the slot value could easily be 3333.

Level 91 started with 4678899 XP
Level 91 ended with 4748943 XP > Difference gives total XP 70044 / 21 = ~3335 XP per slot.

Level 92 started with 4748943 XP
Level 92 ended with 4818890 XP > Difference gives total XP 69947 / 21 = ~3330 XP per slot.

Level 93 started with 4818890 XP
Level 93 ended with 4888897 XP > Difference gives total XP 70080 / 21 = ~3337 XP per slot.

Level 94 started with 4888897 XP
Level 94 ended with 4958895 XP > Difference gives total XP 69925 / 21 = ~3329 XP per slot.

Once again I had an too big overflow when ending level 95, so I had to combine 95 and 96.

Level 95 started with 4958895 XP
Level 96 ended with 5098876 XP > Difference gives total XP 139981 / 42 (2x21) = ~3332.8 XP per slot.

Level 97 started with 5098876 XP
Level 97 ended with 5169032 XP > Difference gives total XP 70156 / 21 = ~3340 XP per slot.

Level 98 started with 5169032 XP
Level 98 ended with 5238984 XP > Difference gives total XP 69952 / 21 = ~3331 XP per slot.

Level 99 started with 5238984 XP
Level 99 ended with 5308876 XP > Difference gives total XP 69892 / 21 = ~3328 XP per slot.

Level 100 started with 5308876 XP
Level 99 ended with 5379078 XP > Difference gives total XP 70202 / 21 = ~3342 XP per slot.

Taken overflow in account all measured levels so far seems to be holding 3,333.333 XP per progression slot.

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Ooh that’s a lot lot lower than expected.

@ L52, its about 5k a slot atm

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Could it be that in each level slots start low and value increases the further we progress in that level?

Maybe I should tally the XP for the first slot. But that is harder, because I tend to forget to do this, or just don’t see the bar when a lot is going on.

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It’s a good shout for sure Bert, I’ll keep an eye on the 60s this week

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Looks unreal. You didn’t destroy many more machines since your last screenshots. :thinking:

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Yeah, when I had to destroy every active FNIX base I turned to WeMod for help, and just out of curiosity I activated Mega XP. Numbers went really fast in those 3-4h :wink:

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Can you fill in a value for n as an example and check and show? Because I keep getting negative values with this formula.

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Wait a minute.
It isn’t possible to get negative values, because the first part is the sum of all numbers from 1 to n, the second part subtracts 10% of the same value and at last everything is multiplicated with 21.

(((100 x (100+1))/2)x100)-((((100x(100+1))/2)x100)x10/100)x21

= (((100x101/2)x100)-((100x101/2)x100)x10/100)x21

= (((10100/2)x100)-((10100/2)x100)x0,1)x21

= ((5050x100)-(5050x100)x0,1)x21

= (505000-505000x0,1)x21

= (505000-50500)x21

= 454500x21

= 9544500

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Thanks. Problem I had, is that if I want to enter the formula “(((100 x (100+1))/2)x100)-((((100x(100+1))/2)x100)x10/100)x21” in my scientific calculator it gives a negative number as result. The same if I do it on my PC.

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Do you have a scientific calculator? then try to enter your whole formula with parentheses as given on your post. I suspect it will also give a negative result.

It needed two more parentheses. This is the right formula ( (((100 x (100+1))/2)x100)-((((100x(100+1))/2)x100)x10/100) )x21

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You’re right.
Proved it with excel now.
Just built the formula out of my mind and obviously forgot these surrounding brackets.

But at the end the formula is what @AliasDJA told, but doesn’t work compared to the real values out of the game.

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Still it’s interesting to try to find out what algorithm is used, or at least come near it.
I was surprised that @AliasDJA has already had 5K per slot on a much lower level, and what that would mean. I’m playing on Solo and Adventure, maybe there is a different value multiplier if played on Skirmish or Guerrilla. I am now starting on the next level, and I will try to tally the first slot as well.

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It’s a very confusing one for sure, especially with 30’s all circa 3k a bar, and 40’s parallel with 4k bars.

The base XP is always calculated per machine, so sadly difficulty wont multiply the level, but it is reminding me of the Level 22 spike on the original 31. maybe, just maybe the latter block of the last 20 per 100 level drops xp bar progression numbers - or even drops down from maybe Level 60, 70, 80 etc back to lower level XP bars.

I’ll keep an eye on the 60’s @Gysbert, suppose we will see when you hit 90’s if it drops back further

Gonna be a long crunch, but the base 100 should be a laugh to reflect on.

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It didn’t drop, but was about the same. See here

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Maybe that’s the solution:

Max XP lvl 31: 548.874
Max XP lvl 10000: 698.378.874

Differences:
lvl: 9.969
XP: 697.830.000

697.830.000 / 9.969 * 21 = 3.333,333 (per slot)

That would mean, that the average XP per slot after lvl 31 would always be about 3.333, as you experienced.

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That’s a great conclusion. :+1: I will keep registering up to level 100 to see if it stays that way.

:grin: But that still means that if we level up one level a day, it will still take 10000 / 365 = 27.39 years to reach max level.

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Well here’s the original 31 for reference, plus 40 as well.

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Weird. Why is there a jump back at lvl 39->40?

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But that is only if there is no bugs or glitches that come along and erase it all, you start over.

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If that happens I just enjoy another game. But it won’t.

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